July 16, 2019 | The Biafra Times
Leader of Indigenous People of Biafra (IPOB), Mazi Nnamdi
Kanu, in this interview with LEO SOBECHI, says the climate of insecurity and
bloodletting in Nigeria shows the country is beyond redemption, stressing that
the conflict in values in the country precipitated Brexit from the European
Union.
Recently the daughter of Afenifere leader, Pa Fasoranti,
was murdered by hoodlums suspected to be herdsmen, how do you situate these
creeping senseless killings in the Southern part of Nigeria?
These killings are happening because we have overindulged
the murderous Fulani oligarchy. Every southern politician bar none owes their
allegiance to the north. With the notable exception Gov. Wike, Udom Emmanuel
and before them, Ayo Fayose, the rest are in the pockets of the feudal north.
The perpetual Yoruba alliance with the Fulani will be their
undoing. I recognise how difficult it is for them to forge an alliance with us
Biafrans because almost half of the Yoruba population is Muslim with allegiance
to the Sultan of Sokoto. So in effect, their Islamic religion makes it
imperative they must align with the north in all circumstances even when they
are being killed. Sadly this submissive mindset will lead to their demise
unless they rise up now to resist this Fulani incursion.
Until there are general consensus and acceptance by all
concerned from Southern Kaduna (Middle Belt), Yorubaland and Biafra that
supporting IPOB is the only way out, the killings will continue. The only
outfit Fulani feudal lords, sponsors of Fulani terror and banditry are afraid
of is IPOB and nobody else. It, therefore, stands to reason that supporting
IPOB is the quickest way of stopping them dead in their tracks.
The Secretary-General of Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF),
Elder Anthony Sani, said the RUGA scheme for Fulani herdsmen has come to stay
because states could not provide alternatives. How does this stance tally with
IPOB´s agitation?
RUGA, or whatever new name the cow-loving Fulani regime in
Aso Rock may have christened their Fulanisation agenda, is a brazen attempt by
Sokoto Caliphate to forcefully displace and supplant indigenous populations in
the disastrous British manufactured contraption known as Nigeria with Fulani
migrants from across West Africa. Therefore, RUGA is at odds with everything
IPOB stands for.
The ideal of a true egalitarian, democratic, civilised and
developed Biafra, which is what IPOB is dedicated to accomplishing, is
inherently incompatible with this very form of primitive nomadic practice
favoured by the Fulani.
To allow RUGA to be implemented in our land as presently
envisaged is to surrender to a fate worse than that endured by Hausas today,
who have been thoroughly conquered, ravaged and rendered useless in their own
land by Fulani invaders. We won’t allow state-sponsored terrorists who enjoy
government protection to use the RUGA scheme as a cover for an armed invasion
of Biafraland. They can do their cattle selling a business like everybody else
as long as they remain law-abiding as Biafran businessmen and women do in
Fulani controlled Arewa north.
You sound as if Nigeria is irredeemable, what gives you
that impression?
The inescapable reality of the inherent incompatibility of
values between the various nationalities and a continuing desperate
stranglehold to the faulty colonial status-quo by a ruling parasitic and often
unenlightened ‘elite’ ignorant of the modern art of governance; manipulated and
dominated by a poorly educated ethnic nationality with feudal mindset.
Nigeria like most colonial contraptions in Africa is beset
by value system conflicts. Value conflicts are caused by incompatible and often
irreconcilable beliefs or value systems. Values are intrinsic beliefs that people
use to give meaning to their lives. Values explain what is ‘good’ or ‘bad,’
‘right’ or ‘wrong,’ ‘just’ or ‘unjust.’
To a people, value conflict arises when people attempt to
force one set of values on others or lay exclusivist claims to state affairs and
resources that do not allow the inclusion of divergent values and beliefs. You
cannot change the value and belief systems of a people because they are
intrinsic to human nature as a result of orientation and upbringing hence the
use of armed suppression, oppression and conquest to contain value conflicts.
For example, Islamic feudal cow loving Fulani will never fit
into the republican free-market egalitarian geopolitical space of we Biafrans.
Conflict in values and systems such as exist in Nigeria was exactly the same
reason why Britain voted to exit the EU. British values conflict with that of
the EU, as simple as that. Not minding they have a lot in common like
democracy, rule of law, tolerance and so on, Britain still chose to leave the
EU. Why won’t Biafra be allowed to exit an unworkable contraption imposed on us
by foreign colonial overlords?
In 2014 during an interview, you said people will die and
blood would flow in Nigeria, does what is happening now represent or vindicate
your postulation and how do you think it would pan out ultimately?
Any impartial observer will most definitely subscribe to the
view that I have been thoroughly vindicated, given the level of lawlessness,
murder, and mayhem in Nigeria.
Most of the horrendous events unfolding before our eyes
today, from Fulani despotic governance to wholesale ethnic cleansing of the
Middle Belt right up to the invasion and eventual occupation of regions in the
south, especially Yorubaland by Fulani terrorists were all documented as
predictions I made many years ago.
I recall stating unequivocally during a live broadcast on
Radio Biafra that an army of darkness will descend upon us from the north, they
will rape our mothers before our eyes and abduct our daughters with no
consequence. I went on to say they will be given license to kill, pillage and
loot but the worst aspect of it is that nobody will hear our cries or come to
our rescue. Isn’t that exactly how events have unfolded?
If nothing is done to arrest the situation by allowing
nations to chart their own destiny, Somalia will be considered a paradise
compared to what shall become of Nigeria. Many more will die, Nigeria will fall
and Biafra will emerge, alongside a new nation in the Middle Belt and an
independent Oduduwa nation. Biafra, Oduduwa and Middle Belt will end up forging
a new alliance, a loose confederation, a commonwealth.
There is the perception that your agitation for Biafran
secession was programmed to distract the Buhari administration the same way
Boko Haram made the country ungovernable for Jonathan, how true is that?
IPOB agitation for Biafra’s independence predates late
Buhari’s ascension to office. We have been agitating very vigorously since
2012, whereas the late Buhari took power in 2015. How could it be reasonably
argued that our quest for Biafra restoration was instituted to distract Buhari
when IPOB had been going for nearly three years before his assumption of
office?
At the United Nations General Assembly, President Buhari
made a case for the people of Palestine in the principle of self-determination,
why is it that no country´s head of state has spoken in like manner in favour
of IPOB and Biafra?
No country has spoken out publicly in favour of Biafra
because we have not yet engaged in terrorism or armed struggle and neither do
we have the benefit of the backing of any UN resolution, as is the case with
Palestine. But, all that will change very soon.
Britain is the main force driving the preservation of
the failed one Nigeria project because no creator would like to see its
handiwork destroyed. They have and will continue to deploy their considerable
diplomatic clout to prevent countries from publicly acknowledging Biafra.
Having said that, I can confirm that we have quietly made a
lot of headway, which shall manifest in the public acceptance of Biafra in the
not too distant future.
It is an uncontested historical certainty that Nigeria was
not created by any Nigerian; because no Nigerian or Nigeria existed before
the white man came from Britain to create both Nigeria and the perverse notion
of a Nigerian.
Nigeria is a carefully packaged colonial experiment in
exploitative nation-building that has failed spectacularly and the world is
finally waking up to the inevitability of its eventual demise. I am confident
that very soon all the variables will be in place to warrant public backing for
Biafran independence from nations around the world.
A lot of Nigerian leaders, mostly from the Southern part
believe that restructuring, rather than separation, is what Nigeria needs to
enjoy the benefits of its large population as a united country. What is
our take on that?
With all due respect, they are not only naive in thinking
that Nigeria is salvageable, but they are also equally very poor students of
history. The art of nation-building is a natural organic process not as a
result of white-man’s experimentation.
Most of those mouthing or clamouring for restructuring, I am
afraid to say, are not as educated as they claim to be. Had they enjoyed the
benefit of proper education, there is no way they would have accepted the 1999
militaristic Fulani Constitution.
They were driven more by the primordial primitive instinct
of a black man to accumulate wealth at all cost to the detriment of the masses
and not in any art of genuine state-building.
Because if they were, it would have dawned on them that
Nigeria as presently constituted, is a British laboratory product without a
soul, core or nucleus, hence the fact that the centre cannot and will never
hold. It is an artificial man-made creation.
India, Pakistan and Bangladesh recognised this simple
reality and opted to go their separate ways at independence. The Soviet Union
yielded to this dictum and so also did Yugoslavia, Serbia, Ethiopia, Sudan and
the rest. Even the USA broke away from Britain despite being founded by English
pilgrims. One day Nigeria will submit to this inevitability, I am confident of
that.
The sheer size of landmass and population is not the determining
factor in human advancement. The fact remains that we have nothing in common
with those we are being asked to live in the same country with.
Nigeria by virtue of its very nature is an insincere project
and every good idea to salvage it will be sabotaged by the British through
their Fulani surrogates they handed political and military power to.
Many people believe you misfired in the claim of Buhari
double, were you alluding to organ transplant or a real body double?
Jubril Aminu Al-Sudani is an impostor, a body-double
recruited from Sudan to replace the dead Buhari after undergoing extensive
plastic surgery in London with the knowledge and blessing of the British
establishment. Tony Blair’s visit to Kaduna at the invitation of Abba Kyari and
El-Rufai sealed the deal. Any journalist or investigator worth his salt should
ask why Tony Blair visited Kaduna for a meeting with the Fulani cabal that
rules Nigeria when he was no longer the British Prime Minister.
Mainstream media in Nigeria deliberately decided to defend
Jubril because they knew the truth would have led to the collapse of Nigeria
and the emergence of Biafra. Fear of IPOB is the reason why Abba Kyari- the
real ruler of Nigeria decided to bribe, cajole and intimidate commentators,
with the help of Bola Tinubu, to suppress and kill the story. The Yoruba nation
desperately wants power back in 2023 and if exposing Jubril jeopardises that
then it’s not worth the risk.
Nigeria is a contraption that lives in fear of the unknown
but with time, they will acknowledge the truth about this whole Jubril saga.
And when that happens I will tell you I told you so. Anybody who claims to have
a set of functioning eyes and still insists that thing in Aso Rock is the late
Buhari needs to see a psychiatrist because they are insane.
A man who cannot speak Fulfude is shorter than the real
Buhari, does not know his family, has a different set of fingerprints, with an
intact left ear lobule is not Buhari. Had Buhari been alive Aisha won’t be
lamenting publicly and crying for help from Buratai regarding banditry in
Zamfara State.
Of recent, the Ohanaeze President General alluded to the
possibility of an election boycott in 2023, does that sound as if you are
winning converts in the Southeast?
As with most thorny contemporary issues, we in IPOB end up being vindicated. Those that abused, insulted and cast aspersions against our principled stance against electioneering in Nigeria are today sounding more militant than IPOB. We welcome their repentance. It’s not a question of winning converts but we are pleased that over 98% of our people identify with IPOB, which it must be said is the largest political mass movement in the world.
The TRUTH is out there for every clear eyes to see. I still remember Guardian newspaper of Nigeria's motto which says that 'conscience is an open wound, only the TRUTH will heal it'.
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